In this episode of Warfare, host James Patton Rogers is joined by Tony Phelan and Susanna Fogel, creators of the new TV series A Small Light, which explores the remarkable true story of Miep Gies, who hid Anne Frank and her family during the Holocaust. The trio discuss the character of Gies and how she went from Otto Frank’s employee, to hiding his whole family in the secret annex for two years.

A Small Light is currently streaming on Disney+, with two episodes released each week.